[trickydicky]

Well i decided to take the day of today and take a wonder to swallow aquatics in Rayleigh, Essex.
Having dribbled over some of there HUGE koi i wanted to see what was still available in the 5-6 inch dept after spending a good half an hour i came across quite a few yamabuki's showa's etc all having the signs of pox .
Eventually an assistant approached me and asked did i need help i instantly asked was that the price for these and he said "yeah but were not doing any deals on em" , i turned to him and said wot even though they have koi pox and his reply was "yeah but it'll go when it warms up" so i replied but wont it transfer to mine and his reply was ......yup you got it right "nah mate " would you buy one.
All i will say is i wouldnt want to take the risk knowing that what fish i do have are disease free and these koi were in a tank of 20c so i dont think looking at how sore they were these fish would survive there first winter..

My first whinge

[welsh_koi]

thats just disgraceful you want to get in touch with someone about it

do they normally have good quality fish

[trickydicky]

there larger fish seemed to be in A1 condition and have to say i havent seen this before ,however i still think that as a buisness the spread of koi pox would have legal implications wouldnt it???.
It wouldnt be so bad if only 1 out of lets say over 100 had got it but to find over 8 ( my eyes went dippy looking at em).
Would this be an enviromental concern??

[welsh_koi]

i would of thought so especially if he is trying to put healthy fish (yours) in danger of getting pox

[trickydicky]

looks like i'll be contacting the enviro boys' tomorow then .
Oh he was very reluctant to say that they were all isreali koi too when i asked who the breeders were he said magnoy to which i replied oh isreali's then not that i have any issues with that but surley they should have sign's or something,i personally dont think he knew too much about what he was saying as he then told a couple who had innocently asked would it be ok to put 5 to 6 inch fish in with a 12 inch koi to which he said no as it would eat them mmmm trying to sell the more expensive fish me think's ..
To be honest with you welsh_koi i have bought my first lot of koi from my local pet shop and picked up a very nice hi utsuri albeit there only 4 inch and the biggest 10 (the one in another thread for identification),there condition is fantastic and they come from a local breeder but she only stocks low numbers and fish of decent colouration ,they also told me if there's any want but cant find she'll use her sources gets a thumbs up from me

[ogawa only]

tricky , i aint far from swallow aquatics ,


and i drive a minimum of 40mins ,and even brave the bridge and pay a toll , rather than buy anything in our area !!

steve

[trickydicky]

I'm from yorkshire and moved to Essex 6 year ago so knowing the best places is a bit hit and miss , however i hadnt gone to swallows to buy just merely to browse as i wanted to get out of the washing up .
Where do you source your stock from steve?

Rick

[trickydicky]

Ok so far ive contacted Rochford enviromental health but they cant do anything until monday Also contacted trading standards and no joy contacted DEFRA errrr told to contact cefac or somat so i did mmmmmm nice helpfull people but not the response i would have hoped for

[welsh_koi]

just the way they are sometime im afraid

and i have Israeli koi and they are stunning fish i got a nice what i think is a showa from my local fish store and its coming along nicely i bought it when it was only 2 inch long its now 5 inch's and nice shape if i could get you a pic i would but he is to quick for me lol

[trickydicky]

have to say i dont have a problem with them being isreali and can say that next year i would even buy one myself .
Ive had 3 tiddlers (koi) that were just over 3 inch 6 weeks ago and have either grown to over 4 inch or my eyes are not as young as they once were one of which i thought was a bekko is now getting a burgundy colour underneath the black and does look very nice