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04-07-2009, 01:41 PM
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#11 (permalink)
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Reputation Level:  | just noticed 1 of my ghost carp has like white patches all over it looks abit like skin peeling is this natural with flukes and using pp ?? or is it ecess mucas from the fish ? as looks really bad sorry i am really worrying about this pond and think i know what to do but just need another opinion, also should i treat with fluke m after 4-5 days to kill off any new hatched eggs ps thanks for the links to articles they are great and full of info |
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07-07-2009, 12:51 PM
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Reputation Level:  | ok dont know how to put this but seems like the pp either never done the trick or i have a much bigger problem in my pond, after the pp i my fish were fine for a couple of days then all of a sudden i lost 5 in the space of half hr i done a water change and added filter booster and have treated with fluke m 5 days after to kill eggs that hae hatched from the flukes etc, i know this sound strange but losing my fish so sudden could it be khv i know its looks the same a trichodina to a point, how can i get my carp tested etc as if it was just trichodina would nt i lose my goldfish and orf, tench ??? |
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07-07-2009, 01:06 PM
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Reputation Level:  | have you over dosed ??????????????????????????????/
i would do a water change asap .............. 30-50% |
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07-07-2009, 01:19 PM
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#14 (permalink)
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Reputation Level:  | i done the fluke m etc by the book, its strange how i have lost nearly all my carp, they are fine 1 min then on top still breathing but in afwul shape, i done a 30% water yesterday but still no improvements in the carp only got 2 left i think in the pond with the goldfish etc i really appriciate the help, i have read every single artical available on pond parasites etc to try and sort this out |
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07-07-2009, 02:30 PM
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Reputation Level:  | hi,stop puting meds in ur pond.how many gallons is ur pond? how many grams of pp did u use?wot test kit do u use?first thing get ur water right.did u know pp can stripe plastic.sounds like u put to much in.put up ur ph.nitrite,ammonia,readings.i know u must be gutted,so u must learn from this.we all have lost koi so thats y u shouldt panic with meds. |
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07-07-2009, 05:46 PM
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Reputation Level:  | my pond is 2500 gallons and i got the pp from the local koi doctor who done my scrape i think it was 20/ 25 grams??, , as i have read about koi health i started looking at my kois gills etc and the have Gill lesions and also look like the article on khv • View topic - KHV The Facts how can i get this checked as panicing that this is what i had ?? cause surely if i overdosed the pond my other fish would die ?? i am totally gutted but have learnt so many new things about looking after koi and the rest of the pond. now im looking at restarting the whole pond, putting the orf and goldish i got into a seperate pond and draining my pond down and disinfecting it all and rebuilting it again. |
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07-07-2009, 07:22 PM
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Reputation Level:  | hi,u now need to take a chill pill! ur pond.get ur water right first.i pp my pond,i put 12g in,2000g.say no more.ur ph amm,nitrite is?test kit? |
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07-07-2009, 10:02 PM
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Reputation Level:  | khv it problery is not just more of a case of treating to much to soon |
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08-07-2009, 09:12 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Cornwall/Devon
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Reputation Level:  | 20/25g of PP is far to much and as you have used so many treatments that is more than likly what has caused it and as for the fish's gills a lot of the treatments you have used especialy the PP will strip the oxygen out of the pond and with no oxygen in the pond the gills will start to deteriate, as said above you need to get the water quality spot on now i would do some 10% water changes of the next couple of days adding filter boost to get the filter back on track and add NO MORE TREATMENT get your water perfect and then if the fish are still looking ill get a scrape done again and go from there but you need to give the treatments a chance to work. I know its hard at the min but i went throu this at the begining of the year with PP striped the oxygen out of the pond and with in a few hours i lost 5 koi so ill never use it again only to disinfect. Just bear with it you will get it sorted
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12-08-2009, 02:53 PM
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Reputation Level:  | Hello
What was the outcome with this problem?
Have just lost 5 koi in the last two weeks to flukes and we are just coming to the end of our chloramine t treatment which was instead but no more effective than the pp. Would be interested to hear how things panned out.
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