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Old 04-06-2006, 08:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All,

Today I have found a number of my koi with blook like marks as seen in the photo - any ideas ?

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Old 04-06-2006, 09:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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it looks like damage from a blow to the fish is there anything they could bang against in the pond ?????
keep a close eye on them chap how many have these marks have you seen any thing hanging around the pond
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Old 05-06-2006, 08:06 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Koiman,

I can't think its hit anything - but with fish you can never be sure !

I have another fish with the same problems, only this one has raised scales also - somewhat like a pine cone effect ...

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Old 05-06-2006, 12:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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sounds like dropsy the one with pine cone scales
please get a pic of that one
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if it is raising like a pine cone and you have a pretty good idea that it might be dropsy then in my honest opinion you might be better off to eradicate the problem totally( ill be slagged off for that comment) how many fish have this problem . if i remember a post from carol yamakoshi vircon s can stop the spread of bacterial ailments from fish to fish . what are you treating with ? good luck paul
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the one with raised scales has problem got dropsy. as said. i have been reading some health pages are all your water levels ammo, nitrite all OK as this could be a sign of stress due to condition of the water ???????
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normally one of the first signs of dropsy are bulging eyes then the pine cone shape starts to appear dropsy is not always caused by bacterial or viral infection it can be caused by kidney failure congestive heart failure and many more unknown reasons i dont think it is a water quality issue more of a element involved in the water . if you dont have isolation for any koi you may think have dropsy then it will always be a issue . personnaly i dont think the koi in the picture has dropsy the infection seems to be to contained in one area and there are no bulging eyes on the koi(well not that i can make out) how many fish do you have?
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Looks like the start of an ulcer due to a bacterial infection. Id add 1/2 ounce of salt per gallon of water and treat with acrivlavine. If this doesnt help you may need to go down the antibiotic injection route.
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Hi Extreme,

Should acrivlavine be added to the entire pond to help any other fish that maybe suffering but not yet showing ?

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HI
I had a similar problem early in the year, why I was building my new pond. My fish were kept in a vat and the nitrite levels got high as the filter was not very mature on the vat.
I removed the fish and placed them in a heated quarantine tank and used Kusuri Sabbactisun over a 2 week period. It worked a treat and it doesn't harm the filter, the only problem is that its expensive if you have to treat the whole pond.
One of my fish had raised scales and the other had raised scales and red marks from stress and possible nitrite burns as the nitrite levels were very high. I done lots of water changes to rectifier the vat and added some salt at 05 oz per gallon to help the rest of the koi from nitrite poisoning.
So check water quality and try and remove fish to a quarantine tank if possible.
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