[crazy-koi]

Anyone any idea what this Koi has wrong with him. Apparently he's had it for years and I've been told its a pigment problem.
PS he's 24 inches long and feeds like the rest of the KOI.
Cheers Crazy-Koi

[koiman[madabtkoi]]

looks like an ulcer to me have you done a scrape of the area ???? looks like theres some real nasty bac there

[brettkoi]

if the kois had it years its possibly a tumour ,but it looks like a massive ulcer and you might be able to treat it.as koiman said get it scraped as it could spread to your others.

[crazy-koi]

What is the best way to take a scrape? After I have the scrape how can I test to see what it is? Excuse my ignorance but never had any Koi with Ulcers or Tumours before.
Crazy-Koi

[koiman[madabtkoi]]

hi understand your point i have got in touch with a guy call duncan griffiths who wrote a book called step by step Advanced Koi diagnosis and Treatments i will put a link on to the site of his http://www.koiquest.co.uk/indexinset1.htm it shows all the little critters ect you might find and some info about doing a scrape as i said i hope duncan will have a look at your photos of the fish and mail me or even post a reply him self

[crazy-koi]

Many thanks Koiman, I will have a look at the site after work today, it would be great if Duncan can look at the photos.
Crazy-Koi

[koiman[madabtkoi]]

hi i have had a reply from duncan quicker than i thought he would answer but not with to gooder news.sorry
the e-mail:

two possibilities here

its not an ulcer although it looks like one

its either dermocystidium "very advanced stage of the disease"

or papilloma tumour, going on the pics i would go for papilloma

with what looks like the hikui also on the head portion of the fish, either way the fish looks screwed

my advice is keep yourself safe at all costs "glove up" and destroy this fish a satisfactory cure is unlikely

sorry

Duncan

[crazy-koi]

Well looks like the poor fish has passed his sell by date. Any advice on the most humane way to send him to his maker.

Crazy-Koi

[koiman[madabtkoi]]

:'( i don't know how much it would cost but an injection from the vet ........... or the less costly way you might not be able to do it i know i wouldn't to one of mine is a smack with something hard across the top of the headÂ* :'( :'( :'( :'(

but see what other people think first !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[discusdan]

injections work very well i had to inject 3 koi last year with ulcers caused by the flukes
i went to the vets and got three injections for each koi and they are now healed
nd it didnt cost much either much less than £30 for all three