pondy

do you give you koi Honey? any thoughts why?

Many of us feed Honey to Our Koi, wether it be mixed in with Food, drizzled on half an Orange or left to soak into some brown bread then dropped into your pond.
But do you ever think of the honey we use, how it could possibly help our koi, or do we just buy tesco 36p Honey and think well honey is honey its all the same …..
If you do you couldn’t be more wrong…..
The USDA publishes a grading system for extracted honey that provided general standards for two types of honey;
1. Filtered Honey: all or most of the fine particles, pollen grains, air bubbles, or other materials normally found in suspension, have been removed.
2. Strained Honey: strained to the extent that most of the particles, including comb, propolis, or other defects normally found in honey, have been removed. Grains of pollen, small air bubbles, and very fine particles would not normally be removed.

The best of these Honey's is Manuka Honey. The main difference between regular honey and Manuka honey is that regular honey undergoes heat treatment during the packaging process, which destroys the healing properties. Manuka honey is finely filtered to remove all processing particles but is usually sold raw and unprocessed with all enzymes and healing properties stable and intact. The result is an extremely pure, highly effective medical-grade honey that has very little in common with common honey. Higher quality brands of Manuka Honey are also laboratory tested for its antibacterial potency and rated on a scale from 0 through 30. Manuka Honey with a UMF rating of 16 is ideal for medicinal use and recommended for most applications. This is available for us to buy, as I use the Manuka Honey from Tesco with a 10+ rating.
Manuka honey has been found to be effective against a wide range of bacteria such as the following:

 Staphylococcus aureus – staph infections.
 MRSA – antibiotic-resistant staph infection.
 E-coli – the most common cause of infected wounds.
 Streptococcus pyogenes – common cause of sore throat.
 Helicobacter pylori – a bacteria linked to stomach ulcers.
 Vancomycin-resistant enterococcus (VRE) – another antibiotic-resistant bacteria.
 Pseudomonas aeruginosa – a common bacteria.
 Enterococcus faecalis – a bacteria found in the gastrointestinal tract.
 Salmonella – an illness-causing bacteria.
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Manuka honey’s anti-inflammatory properties have been found to:
 Reduce swelling
 Reduce pain
 Reduce scarring
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You have to admit these properties could be beneficial for the bumps and scrapes that our koi get from time to time.

So what is Manuka Honey? It's a special type of honey that contains plant-derived, phytochemical components that may be used to promote health and wellness.The Manuka products are used throughout the world, specifically its honey that is prominent for its therapeutic benefits from centuries. The kinds of this product include:The one that is very good in taste but is not completely hygienic, there are some impurities found in that honey.The second one has the Unique Manuka Factor in it, which makes it more useful.
The maximum UMF present in honey give the utmost advantages and is much more effective. This honey is used for many purposes, ranging from its effectiveness for the pain killing to the remedial properties. Because of its wide range of anti infectious properties, the demand for this product is increasing day by day. This product has developed its niche market very successfully.
Descriptive analysis of the benefits of the honey
In the earlier days, this natural herb was classified as a homeopathic treatment but today, even the medical science has the proofs regarding the benefits of this honey. Doctors and physicians recommend its uses for not only the interior health benefits but it also got tremendous uses regarding the benefits for the skin and body. This natural product has the therapeutic properties for the infectious diseases majorly. At international level this honey is famous for its properties regarding all types of skin infections, injuries and many other problems that the patient is facings. Another very advantageous property of this honey includes the anti-aging function. It helps remove the scars on the skin, whether they are due to the age effects or the scars caused by any injury. This honey is also helpful for the cancer and ulcer patients. Doctors suggest their patients to use this product on daily basis. The good point to consider is its price; Manuka honey is available worldwide and at very reasonable prices. People can purchase the product easily on the web and it is also available in physical stores.
Other medicinal advantages:
The best feature of this honey is that it carries no harmful side effects. As it is a natural herb, if the person uses it or if he does not, in both ways there is no harm to the body. It is not a compulsory ingredient to be used for cures and treatments. But the number of benefits it carries is unlimited. Some of them are summarized below:
This honey is best to be used for acne removal and for the other skin treatments. It can be used for the sinus infected diseases. The product can be used for the treatment of some seasonal health diseases also, that might include soar throat, cold and hay fever. It is also recommended for the cure of infections and mending the damaged skin. For the treatment of skin swellings due to any infection, diseases or injury, the benefits of this product must be utilized.
Even the doctors also recommend its uses after the serious surgical treatments. The property of this product of having the anti inflammatory action, help the sensitive skin area to be protected from further infections.
So maybe we should think why am I adding Honey to my food? And if I don’t maybe I should be?
Do I give it cause ive been told they like it and they seem to, or could this actually be a benefit my koi.
Just thought id post this as to inspire your Thoughts. All the information here has been dragged from various website and collated by myself. Hope you enjoyed and was of interest to you.

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markf1fan

This is very interesting Pondy as since you told us about the pearl barley and honey i have tried this 3 or 4 times now and i cant get them to eat it much at all. i have one fish that eats any thing you throw in the pond but he is just guts.

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john t

like the idea of this thread being a sticky (honey) and will look in to using it.

Boo!

Before being smitten by the koi bug - i was heavily involved in the great dane world and we all knew the benefits of manuka honey - with many of us using it to rub externally on to a wound or some such thing - or else feeding it for the medicinal properties it contained. It's definately something i wouldnt mind trying with koi too.

For those of you that dont know and are interested - Holland and Barrett sell manuka honey (oh and if you have a great dane they sell glucosamine too! )

Manuka Honey | Skin Care & Hair Care | Holland & Barrett honey&rdcnt=1&page=3

(remember to take on board what pondy said about the ratings though)

Lx

ryhno

interesting thread guys , since my pond is a water garden rather than a koi pond but built around the needs of koi i have 19 6 inch babys in there now but its very hard near impossibl;e to catch the fish with a net , so im all in for prevention rather than a cure , im now claying weekly and feeding top grade food also good filter husbandry so to add to the armery ....holland and barret here i come .
kev

Dixiedean

Please bear in mind that Honey is 93% carbohydrates, with the overall breakdown 80% natural sugars, 18% water and 2% vitamins, proteins & minerals.

Yes, it is beneficial for healing purposes, and whilst it is relatively good for the koi due to the natural sugars, don't overdo it on the feeding.

faz201283

id love to try diffrent things such as honey but my koi wont eat anything but the pellets, ive tried water melon and orange's even wholemeal bread but they dont touch it!!

terrydog

HI ALL
thats a good read i think i will be eating it myself so i can live longer to look after my koi

ryhno

hi all i did give mine mankuba honey through the summer and i used to put about quater a teaspoon in a little bowl then roll a good handfull of my feed pellet in in for ten mins or so then when they had soaked into the pellets enough id add clay powder to dry the remaining honey up and dry the pellets so they go dry again then chuck the lot in .... my fish loved it and they get the benifit of honey and clay! on only do that once a week in the summer ....im still adding clay though once a week to the pond ...my koi are lovley and deep in there colours so i think something is right ...